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Message: <blockquote data-quote="trueriver" data-source="post: 2254" data-attributes="member: 350">Firstly: my petition was overtaken by events. It is now purely academic as the stores in the most affected areas are shut anyway, and for far longer than I was asking.Secondly: I totally agree that many individuals will ignore any rule any time they can get away with doing so. Even more so when it is presented as a request.That is exactly why I wanted the shops shut. The stores can't afford to floor the law in the way that individuals are doing. Of the shops were shut them the shoppers would not be attracted to the sales.Thirdly: it is high time in my view that the rules were enforced strictly. Pictorial experiments show us that we don't need harsh penalties to deter rule breaking: what is needed is a sense that there is a large chance of a penalty at all.In this context I am appalled that ppl attending raves, large weddings, etc are not being automatically fined (subject to appeal via the courts). It is long past the point where it is plausible for anyone to say they didn't know, therefore it is long past the point where it was appropriate for police to advise on the rules. Fourthly: we should consider mandatory quarantine for those who repeatedly get fined. The legislation was passed in March for mandatory quarantine bit has never been used. Sounds draconian, but it is clear that some people are unable or unwilling to respect the safety of othersFifthly: if police do nonetheless give "advice" the details of the person should be recorded, so that the same Preston does not get away with it time and time again (I know people who boast of doing so)Finally: yes I also agree that the sales are not what they once were: but that is a discussion for another day. If you'd like to make that point in another thread I will say more there.</blockquote>

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